{"id":94,"date":"2005-08-18T17:24:35","date_gmt":"2005-08-18T17:24:35","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2005-08-18T17:31:35","modified_gmt":"2005-08-18T17:31:35","slug":"","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.larcompendium.com\/site\/?p=94","title":{"rendered":"tetsu x Takanori : R&#038;R Newsmaker talk"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This is a translation of the article that appeared in the May 2005 R&#038;R newsmaker. Scans were posted on the minna_genki community linked in the sidebar. I have also added that entry to my own journal&#8217;s memories. This translation was originally posted in that journal entry. This site only contains a spellchecked and revised version. <\/p>\n<p>The small teaser blurb was cut since it&#8217;s embarassingly sappy. That sort of thing comes across much nicer in Japanese. There&#8217;s nothing important or especially amusing to it, anyway. Also, tetsu&#8217;s Osaka-ben is hard to render in English without slipping into equivalent regionalisms, so since I&#8217;m Canadian, his little &#8220;..yanen&#8221;s are becoming &#8220;eh?&#8221;s. I hope no one is too badly thrown off. <\/p>\n<p><b>Begin<\/b> <\/p>\n<p><u>tetsu X Nishikawa Takanori talk <\/u><\/p>\n<p>Both TETSU69 and abingdon boys school participated in the NANA tribute album, &#8220;LOVE for NANA~only 1 Tribute~&#8221;, but is there a surprise relationship between tetsu and Nishikawa Takanori?! To answer, this lovely talk was put together! <\/p>\n<p><i>I already knew I was clumsy, but I&#8217;m still going on. <\/i>(Nishikawa) <\/p>\n<p>Nishikawa : (looking at tetsu&#8217;s outfit of the day) No matter how you look at it, that&#8217;s pink! (laughs)<br \/>\ntetsu : &#8216;Cause, I&#8217;ve liked it since way back. Look, from my point of view, that is not a pink Porsche! (laughs)<br \/>\nNishikawa : Ah! I seee.<br \/>\ntetsu : It takes a successful man to ride second in a pink Porsche (laugh together). When I went to buy the new Porsche, they asked me &#8220;What colour this time?&#8221;<br \/>\nNishikawa : &#8220;Piiink!~&#8221;<br \/>\ntetsu : &#8220;Both of us, eh?&#8221; (both laugh)<br \/>\nNishikawa : Me too, I&#8217;ve been heaaaavy on the pink lately. Lately (shows his socks while saying this). See, (points to his sunglasses) the lenses are pink.<br \/>\ntetsu : &#8216;s that good? &#8230;&#8230; Heh, Chrome Hearts. I got Chrome Hearts too, eh? (Note : Chrome Hearts is a brand name)<br \/>\nNishikawa : Yeah. I think I saw them at the press conference (for NANA).<br \/>\ntetsu : Good! There&#8217;s pink &#8216;ns~<\/p>\n<p>&#8212; And so, the pink info continues.<br \/>\nNishikawa : That&#8217;s a dirty way of talking (laughs). But, it&#8217;s been quite a while since the last time we talked. That was at last week&#8217;s PopJam, right?<br \/>\ntetsu : Yeah. In Kobe.<br \/>\nNishikawa : That day, I had nothing special to get back to, but since we couldn&#8217;t meet up the next day, I just said &#8220;See you later&#8221; anyway.<br \/>\ntetsu : Oh (beautiful laugh).<br \/>\nNishikawa : And you never answered my email. I thought you were heartless (laughs).<br \/>\ntetsu : No no. Nishikawa-kun, you&#8217;re too polite. Too many manners. I&#8217;m sloppy about what I say (laughs).<br \/>\nNishikawa : I realized that, so now I just stick to you like its normal. At first it was &#8220;Not getting close means rearranging my social calendar 100%, so might as well?&#8221; or something (beautiful laugh). I thought you were probably the type who doesn&#8217;t like to get into deep relationships, or something like that.<br \/>\ntetsu : Not at all, you&#8217;re welcome with me.<br \/>\nNishikawa : I guess I&#8217;m just as sloppy (laughs).<br \/>\ntetsu : Like I said, I&#8217;m clumsy!<br \/>\nNishikawa : I know that, but I&#8217;m still gonna go on. I thought &#8220;Hey, yeah, this guy could ruin me.&#8221; Then, I couldn&#8217;t really understand your personality, but I put two and two together. I got a feeling like &#8220;This guy&#8217;s only cold in what he says&#8221;. And I think you said &#8220;Can&#8217;t help it. That&#8217;s just how I am, eh?&#8221;<br \/>\ntetu : Yeah, yeah, yeah (laughs). It&#8217;s really fun remembering all this.<br \/>\nNishikawa : But then, just like procrastinating on returning a rental, a bunch of stuff piled up, and it got kind of awkward. (laugh together).<br \/>\ntetsu : Reaaally careless.<\/p>\n<p><i>And I even asked &#8220;Let&#8217;s be in a band together&#8221; <\/i>(tetsu) <\/p>\n<p>&#8212; So then, how did you two meet?<br \/>\nNishikawa : I first met tetsu-kun at Umeda&#8217;s in Osaka. tetsu-kun had a baseball cap on.<br \/>\ntetsu : Seriously? I doubt it (beautiful laugh). I was at my job, right?<br \/>\nNishikawa : Yeah!<br \/>\ntetsu : That was when I was working at the accessory shop.<br \/>\nNishikawa : And I went there.<br \/>\ntetsu : Back then, Nishikawa-kun was a big name in Osaka!<br \/>\nNishikawa : No no no! (Long suffering laugh) I was in a band in Osaka. I was asked to join a different band, with just &#8220;Wanna start up a new band?&#8221; The guy who asked was a guitar player, and I would be the vocals, right? And we talked&#8230; &#8220;What about the other &#8216;ments?&#8221; so he said &#8220;I&#8217;ve got someone.&#8221; I waited around a while, but then I got to meet the one he had in mind, and it was tetsu-kun. I greeted him with &#8220;Nice to meet you,&#8221; but he was in the middle of work so I said &#8220;Sorry,&#8221; and left. This and that happened, and the guitar player suddenly stopped contacting me. All that talk was for nothing. And then later, tetsu-kun got his debut with L&#8217;Arc~en~Ciel.<br \/>\ntetsu : You make it sound so beautiful (laughs).<br \/>\nNishikawa : Wha~! I was definitely just summarizing everything for the article, not even using that many words.<br \/>\ntetsu : But it was never that interesting before.<br \/>\nNishikawa : It doesn&#8217;t have to be interesting, it&#8217;s just reality. That&#8217;s all! (laughs)<br \/>\ntetsu : That&#8217;s what you think. Back when I first met him, Nishikawa-kun was a great sell. Like just about everyone in Osaka knew Luis~Mary.<br \/>\nNishikawa : Whoaaaaa~~~(long-suffering laugh)<br \/>\ntetsu : That&#8217;s why when I first met him, my impression was &#8220;I think I&#8217;ve seen this guy on TV or something!&#8221; (beautiful laugh)<br \/>\nNishikawa : Uwa~~ You&#8217;re too much (laughs)<br \/>\ntetsu : I was a no-name back then. So when you said we could start a band together, I thought &#8220;Haven&#8217;t I already decided my future?&#8221; for a moment, and I hesitated. I thought &#8220;Starting a band with Nishikawa-kun might be my way to a debut.&#8221;<br \/>\nNishikawa : Uuhaahaahaahuhaa(bursts into laughter)<br \/>\ntetsu : I was hoping and waiting, and then Luis~Mary debuted and decided to go to Tokyo (both snicker).<br \/>\nNishikawa : You&#8217;re WRONG! (long suffering laugh)<br \/>\ntetsu : Wrong about you wanting to be in a band with me, it looks like? (beautiful laugh)<br \/>\nNishikawa : Hey! You just twisted my words around~.<br \/>\ntetsu : But this way it&#8217;s so much more interesting (both share a laugh)<br \/>\nNishikawa : You twisted my words midway through~ (bitter laugh). I thought I&#8217;d contact the other people involved, and from then I just went on and couldn&#8217;t help but debut (with Luis~Mary). But I really would have wanted to be in a band with tetsu-kun. Now, I think about what it would have been like if I&#8217;d been the one by tetsu&#8217;s side. But that can&#8217;t happen now. (both laugh beautifully). I&#8217;m constantly keeping an eye out for it, though. For that position next to you! (laughs)<\/p>\n<p><i>I&#8217;ve allllways kept you in mind.<\/i> (Nishikawa) <\/p>\n<p>&#8212; What about your interaction since the plans to start a band together were interrupted?<br \/>\ntetsu : The kid involved in that, the guitar player, stopped contacting me, too, and Nishikawa-kun went to Tokyo, as a pro musician, and I was just another Freeter (Note: Someone who is not a student and doesn&#8217;t have a real career) working part time in Osaka&#8217;s Umeda (laughs). We&#8217;re in contact now though.<br \/>\nNishikawa : See~ he&#8217;s twisting words around again!<br \/>\ntetsu : It wouldn&#8217;t be wrong to say I was told &#8220;We live in two different worlds.&#8221; So there ain&#8217;t no way you can say we were standing on the same dirt. Then I came this far! (Both laugh)<br \/>\nNishikawa : Fwaa (laughs). I always kept you in mind. I said &#8220;Hey, isn&#8217;t that&#8230;&#8221; when L&#8217;Arc~en~Ciel debuted. Back then (L&#8217;Arc&#8217;s) stylist was someone I knew, so I said &#8220;You&#8217;re doing L&#8217;Arc, aren&#8217;t you?&#8221; &#8220;But we only ever met once, so they wouldn&#8217;t remember me.&#8221; After my band split up, I spent about a year and a half doing nothing but wasting time at home. While I was doing that, L&#8217;Arc was just taking off. &#8220;Wow, what&#8217;s next, eh?&#8221;<br \/>\ntetsu : Haha, that&#8217;s distant (beautiful laugh).<br \/>\nNishikawa : &#8216;S true, though. Like, there were no other encounters? But now saying &#8220;Do you remember?&#8221; would be kinda presumptuous, wouldn&#8217;t it?<br \/>\ntetsu : But I do remember.<br \/>\nNishikawa : No no no no (harsh laugh).<br \/>\ntetsu : Nishikawa-kun, it&#8217;s like you think L&#8217;Arc&#8217;s bassist isn&#8217;t the same person you met back then in Umeda.<br \/>\nNishikawa : That&#8217;s a big misunderstanding. It was a complete coincidence.<br \/>\ntetsu : Seriously? I&#8217;d have thought you wouldn&#8217;t remember me at all.<br \/>\nNishikawa : It&#8217;s because I saw you regularly. That&#8217;s why I could do this Coming Out thing so soon. I though there was no way you&#8217;d remember me.<br \/>\ntetsu : That&#8217;s what I thought, eh?!<br \/>\nNishikawa : &#8220;That&#8217;s what I thought, eh?!&#8221; You always say things like that! (beautiful laugh).<\/p>\n<p><i>Luis~Mary&#8217;s spark stuck with me.<\/i> (tetsu) <\/p>\n<p>&#8212; When was this Coming Out?<br \/>\nNishikawa : Around the year before last. Some of the staff members around me had worked with tetsu-kun. I told those people &#8220;Truth is, I know tetsu-kun from way back.&#8221; And one of them ended up telling tetsu-kun.<br \/>\ntetsu : Yeah, yeah. So that&#8217;s when I first knew &#8220;He still remembers me!&#8221; When we first met, I was an amateur, right? From what I remember, I think your impression couldn&#8217;t have been far off.<br \/>\nNishikawa : Is that so? I guess that&#8217;s the distant past. tetsu-kun made L&#8217;Arc. You made your own spark. You went to Live Houses and propped them up. Seeing that, I can&#8217;t help but go &#8220;Wow.&#8221;<br \/>\ntetsu : Speaking of that, I was at the record store in Umeda, Warutsu-dou, right? When I was working there, the kid who played bass for Luis~Mary even had a spark when he said things like &#8220;Please get that for me.&#8221; I&#8217;d have gotten the whole store for him! (both laugh beautifully). Really, eh? (more laughing).<br \/>\nNishikawa : That period was a great help. But, hey, I bet I know where you got that shirt (they were wearing NANA shirts). (both share a big laugh).<br \/>\ntetsu : It really is such a small world! I was at the store in Aoyama buying this, then when I was in front of the register getting it wrapped, I felt someone&#8217;s eyes on me. (laughs) I thought &#8220;Is a girl staring at me?!&#8221; but then I checked and it was just Nishikawa-kun.<br \/>\nNishikawa : Hey, when people meet me it&#8217;s not &#8220;Oh&#8221;, it&#8217;s &#8220;&#8230;&#8230;Wow~~~&#8221; that&#8217;s supposed to be the reaction (laughs). I just faded in. I don&#8217;t cut in. When I found him I was gonna say &#8220;Hey! tetsu-kun&#8221; but I didn&#8217;t. Does it feel like I just faded in going &#8220;&#8230;&#8230;Wow~~~!&#8221; (laugh together). Time passed like an analog recorder. We&#8217;re at the era where they use Pro Tools, so reactions should be like flipping a switch, already! (both have a big snicker).<br \/>\ntetsu : First off, (the other person) probably thinks &#8220;There&#8217;s no way he&#8217;s noticing me&#8221; about Nishikawa-kun. Plus I was in a hat and shades, and I thought &#8220;No way am I gonna expose myself.&#8221;<br \/>\nNishikawa : Well, that I can understand! (laughs).<br \/>\ntetsu : It&#8217;s different, though. Out of all the members of L&#8217;Arc, I&#8217;m the least recognized. I&#8217;m sure of that. No, it&#8217;s true.<br \/>\nNishikawa : While you&#8217;re saying that, for me it&#8217;s more like, now I&#8217;m normally &#8220;moving with Zero Aura&#8221; or something. (both burst into laughter). No exposing. Even when I go get food, my aura is so low that I don&#8217;t get any service (laughs).<br \/>\ntetsu : Me, I can go to the same store 10 times or more and they still aren&#8217;t gonna remember my face.<br \/>\nNishikawa : This guy sure knows a lot about music, but for the life of me I can&#8217;t remember where I&#8217;ve seen him before~ (laughs).<br \/>\ntetsu : I don&#8217;t really have that much confidence in myself.<br \/>\nNishikawa : No waay~? That&#8217;s no good, you definitely need to change that. <\/p>\n<p><i>Out of five mails I send, only one ever gets back to me.<\/i> (Nishikawa) <\/p>\n<p>&#8212; What have you done since the Coming Out? <\/p>\n<p>Nishikawa : I arbitrarily send him mails, but he only answers about one out of every five.<br \/>\ntetsu : I guess I could put a bit more effort into answering them.<br \/>\nNishikawa : That&#8217;s why I felt awkward at first. It&#8217;s like we&#8217;re not friends.<br \/>\ntetsu : The hell are you saying?! To think you&#8217;re my best friend (laughs).<br \/>\nNishikawa : But, you could have told me that when we met (beautiful laugh).<br \/>\ntetsu : But I&#8217;m really clumsy. So&#8230;&#8230; that really hurt (pained laugh)<br \/>\nNishikawa : It does hurt. This goes to show how sharp I can be. I couldn&#8217;t keep it in any longer. Oh, hey, I didn&#8217;t mean to get you depressed. You just spend too much time thinking &#8220;What should I write?&#8221; and &#8220;What do I send?&#8221; right?<br \/>\ntetsu : Yeah!<\/p>\n<p><i>How about being a guy version of that twin vocal group, t.A.T.u? <\/i>(tetsu) <\/p>\n<p>&#8212; What kind of person is Nishikawa-kun from tetsu-chan&#8217;s point of view?<br \/>\ntetsu : He&#8217;s so polite! And also, he makes alllll my old dreams about what I wanted to do in life come back to me. It&#8217;d be great if they could all become reality. The things I want to do now, that is.<br \/>\nNishikawa : When I wanted to make up a homepage, the web designer I got had come to me through tetsu-kun, you know.<br \/>\ntetsu : I&#8217;m trying to stockpile members for my solo work&#8217;s band. Hey, would you stop stealing my members? (laughs)<br \/>\nNishikawa : I had no idea (laughs). tetsu&#8217;s page was in a magazine with a bunch of others, and when I had a look I kept saying &#8220;Oh! I want this too!&#8221; the whole time.<br \/>\ntetsu : So, we should go shopping together sometime.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212; Somehow it seems like your tastes overlap.<br \/>\nNishikawa : Maybe we were bandmates in a past life (laugh together).<br \/>\ntetsu : That time in the clothing store, I figured &#8220;He&#8217;s probably going to (abingdon boys school&#8217;s) recording from here,&#8221; so I thought about calling you over. (laughs beautifully)<br \/>\nNishikawa : Shower me with those sweet words if you must!<br \/>\ntetsu : If I&#8217;m going to join in, it should be as vocalist~(laughs).<br \/>\nNishikawa : Should have said that sooner.<br \/>\ntetsu : How about being a guy version of that twin vocal group, t.A.T.u?<br \/>\nNishikawa : If we go that far, we&#8217;ll have to be exported to Russia (laughs).<\/p>\n<p>&#8212; What if you&#8217;d known each other without any connection to bands&#8230;&#8230;<br \/>\nNishikawa : That&#8217;s more than ten years to change, so it&#8217;s pretty hard to imagine something like that. I just can&#8217;t consider that much stuff, eh? (laughs). What I mean is, if we went back, we might have a chance to make it together. So that&#8217;s why I won&#8217;t turn my back on tetsu-kun and keep trying hard to stay in the same front lines.<br \/>\ntetsu : I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any kind of crisis on that front.<\/p>\n<p>&#8212; What are your expectations about your upcoming activities?<br \/>\ntetsu : From my point of view, Nishikawa-kun is just about perfect. I still totally suck, so I gotta do something about that. I&#8217;m completely cut off from my public image, right? My working side can do that sort of thing, but outside of work I space out. So&#8230;&#8230; I&#8217;ll work hard. It would be ungraceful of me not to.<br \/>\nNishikawa : I&#8217;ll keep working hard the way tetsu-kun does to make the things I want to do seem &#8216;interesting&#8217;. I want to think of us as rivals, or make others think of us like that. Forever. <\/p>\n<p>(Interview and transcript \/ Tojo Sachie) <\/p>\n<p>Translated by Natalie Arnold <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is a translation of the article that appeared in the May 2005 R&#038;R newsmaker. Scans were posted on the minna_genki community linked in the sidebar. I have also added that entry to my own journal&#8217;s memories. This translation was originally posted in that journal entry. This site only contains a spellchecked and revised version. <\/p>\n<p>The small teaser blurb was cut since it&#8217;s embarassingly sappy. That sort of thing comes across much nicer in Japanese. There&#8217;s nothing important or especially amusing to it, anyway. Also, tetsu&#8217;s Osaka-ben is hard to render in English without slipping into equivalent regionalisms, so since I&#8217;m Canadian, his little &#8220;..yanen&#8221;s are becoming &#8220;eh?&#8221;s. 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